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Museum Talk:  It Started With… "You can't do that. They're all dead."

David Heeley and Joan Kramer In the Company of Katharine Hepburn 

*Photo by Len Tavares

Over a 16-year period, Joan Kramer and David Heeley maintained a professional and personal relationship with Katharine Hepburn, working together on documentary profiles about Spencer Tracy ('The Spencer Tracy Legacy: A Tribute by Katharine Hepburn'), and Hepburn herself ('Starring Katharine Hepburn' and 'Katharine Hepburn: All About Me').

Join us as Joan and David share personal anecdotes, and show some never-before-seen outtakes of interviews and footage that didn’t make the cut in their finished films. They will also tell stories about their associations with other Hollywood legends such as Fred Astaire, Paul Newman and Frank Sinatra, as documented in their book, In the Company of Legends. 

Joan and David will sign books after the presentation.

About the book In the Company of Legends

Beginning with their award-winning profiles of Fred Astaire, Joan Kramer and David Heeley established their reputation for finding the unfindable, persuading the reluctant, and maintaining unique relationships long after the end credits rolled. These unique and intimate stories about the productions, and the personalities involved, are amusing, moving, often revealing, and have never been told before.


Born in Chicago, IL, Joan Kramer was a ballet dancer and assistant choreographer before starting her career in film and television production. She was an assistant talent coordinator for The Dick Cavett Show, associate producer for a Candid Camera Special, and writer for Live From Lincoln Center. She then joined the staff of WNET where she began her long producing partnership with David Heeley. For public television, and later for their own company, Top Hat Productions, they created profiles of some of the most famous and well-respected personalities in the entertainment industry, and maintained personal relationships with many of them, their families, and friends. Their programs have received five Emmy awards, twenty Emmy nominations, and many other national and international honors. 


David Heeley was born in the north of England. After graduating from Oxford University in 1961, he joined the BBC in London, initially as an engineer, eventually becoming a staff director. In 1969 he moved to New York, where he worked first for public television's WNET, and later Top Hat Productions, which he owned with Joan Kramer. He has received many awards, including six Emmys, has been nominated for three Directors Guild of America awards, and has taught a course on directing at New York University's School of Continuing and Professional Studies. He was executive producer of the WNET/PBS series Nature from its premiere in 1982 until 1991, and has produced numerous acclaimed documentary profiles together with Joan Kramer.



The Kate parking map - accessible parking is available on Main Street and in the parking lot behind the Kate

Parking at the Kate is free and easy! There is not one dedicated parking lot; however, there is ample parking surrounding the venue.

Parking on the street is limited and shared by all Main Street merchants. We ask that you consider one of the suggested off-street parking locations in blue where Kate patrons have permission to park.

Shows start promptly at the time posted to our website and printed on your tickets. Planning to arrive 15 minutes prior to the show is always a great idea—plus, it give you a few minutes to explore the Katharine Hepburn Museum!


The Kate is located at 300 Main Street in downtown Old Saybrook, a short distance from the I-95 corridor as well as the Route 9/I-95 interchange. Get Driving Directions


The Kate’s Concessions/Bar area is open for most shows, offering bottled water, soda, juice, and a selection of movie theater candy. For those 21 and over, a selection of beer, wine, prosecco, and simple mixed cocktails are available.

Cash or credit cards are accepted and beverages purchased at the Kate may be taken into the theater.

Concessions/bar may not be available for all performances and selections may vary. For more information, contact the Box Office at (860) 510-0453.

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The Kate theater is located on the 2nd and 3rd floors of the Cultural Arts Center. The orchestra level is accessible by elevator from the 1st floor lobby; the balcony is accessible only via stairs. Accessible seating locations may vary slightly by event and are clearly identified on the interactive seating chart for each performance. If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact the Box Office at (860) 510-0453. For additional information, please reference our Box Office & Theater Policies.

Seating chart

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